Tipping is a waste of money!!
(Special mention to anyone who can guess what this picture is actually about)
My views maybe clouded by the s**ty service I received over the weekend ( My co-diner did something about it--see David V). But then again it may just be the Indian in me. Now I’m not cheap (maybe just a little… but who isn’t) but I just feel that the 15% mandatory tip is a joke. So here are the arguments for tipping and my counter arguments
Argument 1 - A tip is mandatory to ensure good service
Counter Argument - If it’s a tip then why is it mandatory? If someone doesn’t serve me as I feel they should, they don’t deserve a tip. Why should I feel guilty? And why should I have to carry cash?
Argument 2 - Poor things, they don’t make much in base pay and tips are the only way they make money
1 Counter Argument – And I should care because? Well boo hoo is all I can say. Get a college degree. I have no intention to fund your bohemian lifestyle or your way through college.
2 Counter Argument – If you feel they should get paid more lobby your congressman/bar owner to increase their pay. I don’t want to decide.
Argument 3 - They provide a service so the tip is to appreciate their service
Counter Argument – I don’t tip my doctor or my lawyer or my real estate agent and furthermore my clients never tip me and I don’t expect them to. Why then should I tip?
Argument 4 - Its not their fault if the cook delays/screws up the order
Counter Argument – Don’t use me to deduce and/or devise your performance evaluation system. You are the best judge of you employees’ performance. So reward them accordingly. Don’t put the customer through the moral dilemma of figuring out what’s a good tip. Moreover calculating the tip is a pain in the posterior. If you think they deserve it make it part of the price. Problem over.
*The opinions expressed by Al-waris do not reflect those of C&E, its editor and its advertisers. In some cases it may not accurately represent what Al himself feels.
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Harsh, partially correct except for that whole bohemian, go to college thing. Without my parents, I doubt I would have been able to afford college.
Cry me a river, Dr. BJ (and Tall Paul, who is too much of a wuss to post his thoughts in comment form). It's not called "Universally Agreeable Statement" Tuesday.
Mazerino: i'm never[deleted]
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Sent at 3:03 PM on Tuesday
me: i thought 20% tip was mandatory
Mazerino: no way
15
r ya kiddin?
Sent at 3:25 PM on Tuesday
me: anyway, i think al waris is missing some of the point
he makes good points like "its not my fault that tipping is what waiters/waitresses depend on"
Mazerino: why do you comment to me and not on the blog
me: but the tip REALLY IS almost part of the bill, if their salary were figured in more to the bill, then the bill would be more expensive
Mazerino: he's saying make it a part
he doesnt give a shit if the price goes up
he shouldnt have to decide
me: but it already is essentially, with the tip included
thgat's why you pay the tip
Mazerino: but it is
isnt
you have to calculate
you have to decide whether to over or undertip
me: looks like we've got some class warfare going on inside C&E
Mazerino: and if you get shitty service you are still obligated to tip 15%
me: C&E is just a lightning rod for controversey
Mazerino: so why even mince words
thats the point
we're stirring the pot
no one is safe
Sent at 3:30 PM on Tuesday
me: 15%?
what are you, my grandfather?
Mazerino: when the hell did it change?
me: a while ago
should that be my comment?
Mazerino: bullshit
me: i thought you were on the up-and-up
i thought you had your finger on the pulse of the nation
Mazerino: waiter or waitress 15% to 20% of bill.
If you receive excellent service or if it is a 4 star + restaurant or large parties, a 20% or greater tip is recommended.
http://www.tipping.org/tips/restaurant.html
me: no way
20% is standard
Mazerino: nope
you're an idiot
20% is exceptional
me: 25 percent is exceptional
where have you been?
Mazerino: thats retarded
sales tax here is 10%
i'm not paying 35% above the bill for any service
Sent at 3:34 PM on Tuesday
Mazerino: [deleted]
hey, whats a standard tip at a restaurant
if you get run of the mill service
[girl]:
10-20%
me: [girl]: 18%
i'm looking for your definition of the standard tipping percentage
one number
go
[girl]: 18%
Mazerino: [deleted]
it is historically 15% but now most people our age seem to think that that is a crappy tip and you should tip 20% which was historically a very good tip
me: exactly, historically being the same era of a crotchety old man tipping 10% at pizza hut
Mazerino: 20 is ridic
me: your ridic
Mazerino: your or you're?
me: you're fighint the system
Mazerino: i would NEVER give 25
me: yea that's the other thing, if my parents hadn't financed my college education, i'd prob be working at an arcade sans-B.A. and hitting on 18 year olds
dr. bj is psot on
Sent at 3:40 PM on Tuesday
Mazerino: i responded to him and you in the comments
Sent at 3:41 PM on Tuesday
Mazerino: you're a total know-it-all
Sent at 3:44 PM on Tuesday
Beej, I think you're still smarting from my piece on dogs. That wasn't a personal attack, I assure you.
Um... I financed my education. My parents barely paid anything and I don't work at an arcade. I haven't even hit on any 18 year olds either... lately.
The people I know that work in the restaurant industry, besides dotw roommate, realize they have to work for their tip. 20% orfir exceptional and 15%-18% is the norm, unless I am trying to out do dr. bj.
As a degree toting server, you really pushed my buttons on this one, C&E.
#1 - You're tipping/paying for service, period. Otherwise, stay home, serve yourself, clear your own dishes. You are paying me to create a nice and pleasant dining experience for your night out on the town. I know what is best on the menu, I know what wines pair well, I am your guide.
Most people don't realize that the server also distributes tips to their support staff. Let's do some math. Most restaurateurs expect their servers to pull in at least 18% based on the total bill including tax. If your bill is $100, you tip $18. At the end of the night I distribute a minimum 30% of my total tips ($6). So, if you don't tip me anything, I actually PAY someone for the privilege of waiting on you.
#2 - I think this blogger/waiter succinctly argues against making base pay higher. http://waiterrant.net/?p=184
#3 - Bill is for the food you scarfed. Tip is for my service to you. You pay your doctor even if you don't like her don't you or if she treated you poorly? I work hard to give you fantastic service, so you'll tip me more. If I had a base pay, I wouldn't give a crap.
#4 - Both pro and con arguments on this one are dumb. If the kitchen is screwing things up, your server should let you know so you don't get [as] pissed off. The tips I get aren't an evaluation of my performance for the restaurant owner. They don't care. They already made a profit off of your $10 glass of wine.
Yes, 20% is standard; I'll forgive 18%. :P C'mon you guys live here! It's a city and expensive!
Al Waris gets mean: "Argument 2 - Poor things, they don’t make much in base pay and tips are the only way they make money
1 Counter Argument – And I should care because? Well boo hoo is all I can say. Get a college degree. I have no intention to fund your bohemian lifestyle or your way through college." WOW Al, I didn't think you had it in you
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